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FAQ Categories
POES Sounder Characteristics
Orbits and Data Coverage
Product Retrieval and Characteristics
Product Availability and Operational Use -
The Polar Orbiting Satellite Sounding Evaluator (POSSE) and AWIPS
POES Sounder Characteristics
- Operational POES satellites are deployed with a complement of infrared and
microwave radiation sounders. How does an atmospheric sounder work?
Orbits and Data Coverage
- When looking at multiple satellite composites, why are there gaps between
orbits? Do these gaps remain fixed in position and do they change in size?
- When looking at the POES sounding coverage (using
POSSE
),
sounding locations across the swath of a given orbit appear to have
variable spacing. Why does this occur?
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Product Retrieval and Characteristics
- POES systems produce temperature and moisture soundings in clear and cloudy
atmospheres. How can this be done?
- Temperature and moisture profiles are computed for both GOES and POES observations.
How are sounding products computed for each and are the approaches different?
- Most satellite derived product systems require first guess information
to compute soundings. GOES soundings use a numerical weather prediction (NWP)
forecast as the first guess. How important is the first guess, and how is
it computed for POES?
- NESDIS produces moisture products in both ATOVS
and AMSU
-B based
sounding retrieval systems. What are the differences between these products?
- Can soundings be reliably retrieved over all terrain?
- POES soundings can be retrieved in cloudy areas, but not in areas of heavy
precipitation. What is the threshold of precipitation at which a reliable
retrieval becomes unlikely, and what if any is the effect of cloud liquid
water (CLW)?
- RAOB and NWP forecast profiles represent a series of point
measurements
at specified horizontal and vertical locations. What are the horizontal and
vertical characteristics of satellite derived sounding products?
- How do cloud liquid water (CLW) and total precipitable
water (TPW) products generated by the NESDIS MSPPS
compare with the same products available from ATOVS and AMSU-B systems?
- POES sounder measurements from AMSU-B used primarily for moisture
retrieval
are contaminated by significant radio frequency interference (RFI) from data
transmitters onboard NOAA-15. What is the current status concerning this RFI
and are the AMSU-B measurements and derived products useful?
- A known advantage of POES vs. GOES sounders is the ability to
retrieve atmospheric
temperature and moisture in cloudy regions. In clear regions where both systems
provide soundings, how do the sensitivities of POES and GOES sounders compare?
Are they equivalent?
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Product Availability and Operational Use - POSSE and AWIPS
- NWS field offices currently have access to GOES sounder
retrievals and some derived product imagery through AWIPS. Will the
new generation of NOAA POES (NOAA-15, L, and M) provide the same or
a different suite of products?
- How soon can I expect to have access to sounding retrievals
(with POSSE
) after a POES orbit?
- When looking at POES sounding products (using POSSE),
are all displayed products valid for weather forecasting applications?
- The larger operational forecast centers around the world have begun
switching from satellite derived soundings to satellite sounder measurements
for assimilation into NWP models. What impact if any does this have
when it comes to weather forecasting applications?
- What are the goals and attributes of the POSSE
system?
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POES Sounder Characteristics
- Operational POES satellites are deployed with a complement of infrared and microwave
radiation sounders. How does an atmospheric sounder work?
Answer: An atmospheric sounder provides a vertical profile of atmospheric temperature and
moisture. Sounder frequencies are selected based on their absorption characteristics for
atmospheric gases such as carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, and water vapor. The variation
in absorption with frequency makes each channel uniquely sensitive to temperature and/or
moisture within a discrete vertical atmospheric layer. The thickness of the layer depends
on the variation of absorption with frequency as well as the width of the frequency
(bandwidth) being sensed. Microwave radiometers typically have a broader vertical
sensitivity than their infrared partners and reduced atmospheric sensitivity near
the surface.
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Orbits and Data Coverage
- When looking at multiple satellite composites, why are there gaps between orbits?
Do these gaps remain fixed in position and do they change in size?
Answer: The progression of orbits and orbital periods is not exactly the same for two
satellites given their variation in height. Consequently, on some days their orbits can
overlap considerably leaving large gaps (mainly toward the tropics). On other days the
smaller overlap results in little or no gaps. Typically, no gaps occur poleward of 40
degrees latitude.
- When looking at the POES sounding coverage (using POSSE
), sounding locations across
the swath of a given orbit appear to have variable spacing. Why does this occur?
Answer: The variable spacing of POES data coverage is primarily the result of the POES
sounding algorithm and the POSSE sequential display technique. The spacing of POES
soundings can vary from as little as 17 km near nadir
, where sounder measurements are
most dense and highly resolved, to 150 km near the orbit edge, where sounder resolution
and measurement density are lowest.
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Product Retrieval and Characteristics
- POES systems produce temperature and moisture soundings in clear and cloudy
atmospheres. How can this be done?
Answer: POES satellites are equipped with both microwave and infrared atmospheric
sounders. Although clouds contaminate the infrared by absorbing upwelling
radiation from the atmosphere and surface below, they are mostly transparent
in the microwave. NESDIS sounding systems first determine the presence of
clouds. Soundings for clear FOVs
are computed using both
infrared and microwave measurements. For cloudy FOVs only microwave measurements
are used.
- Temperature and moisture profiles are computed for both GOES
and POES observations. How are sounding products computed for each and are
the approaches different?
Answer: GOES and POES sounding products are computed using a physical retrieval
approach. This approach utilizes an atmospheric radiative transfer model
and the observed sounder measurements to simultaneously solve for vertical
profiles of temperature and moisture. The main difference in the scientific
approach is how the necessary first guess is formed. GOES sounding retrieval
depends on a 6-hour NWP forecast to provide the first guess information,
whereas POES retrieval relies on a library search that determines first
guess information based on 30- to 60-day global datasets of collocated RAOB
and satellite measurements.
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- Most satellite derived product systems require first guess
information to compute soundings. GOES soundings use a numerical weather prediction
(NWP) forecast as the first guess. How important is the first guess, and how
is it computed for POES?
Answer: The first guess provides initial temperature, moisture, and sounder
information from which to compute soundings. Although accurate first guess
information is desirable, it is most important that both the meteorological
and sounder data represented in the guess be consistent. POES first guess
information is independent of NWP forecasts, relying instead on carefully
compiled datasets of collocated radiosonde and satellite observations. These
datasets are global, updated daily, and directly accessed during orbital
processing. Collocations for which the sounder and RAOB data agree best
are identified during orbital processing. This matching is referred to as
the library search approach. RAOB and sounder data for 10 selected collocations
are averaged to compute the first guess temperature, moisture, and sounder
radiances.
- NESDIS produces moisture products in both ATOVS
and
AMSU
-B based sounding retrieval
systems. What are the differences between these products?
Answer: At the time of publication, the NESDIS processing system for AMSU-B
high-resolution moisture products is separate from the ATOVS system that
produces AMSU-A and HIRS
temperature and moisture
soundings. This is unfortunate because the former lacks temperature information,
while the latter lacks moisture information in cloudy regions. It is therefore
recommended that users view ATOVS products for temperature profiles and
AMSU-B for coincident moisture products. NESDIS is developing a combined
AMSU-A, AMSU-B, and HIRS temperature and moisture product retrieval system,
tentatively scheduled for implementation before the end of 2000.
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- Can soundings be reliably retrieved over all terrain?
Answer: Yes, except for levels near the surface. The POES sounding products
include terrain type, and product generation is segregated by terrain type.
The terrain types available are sea and non-sea, with subcategories under
non-sea including coast, snow, ice, and high terrain. Given the sensitivity
of microwave channels to surface emissivity, those channels peaking in the
lower troposphere are used less over land (particularly over snow and ice)
than over sea. Soundings over high terrain use neither microwave channels
peaking at low levels nor infrared data. Since coastal soundings can include
microwave data affected by both land and sea, their use is not recommended.
- POES soundings can be retrieved in cloudy areas, but not
in areas of heavy precipitation. What is the threshold of precipitation at
which a reliable retrieval becomes unlikely, and what if any is the effect
of cloud liquid water (CLW)?
Answer: Profiles are retrieved in areas of clouds by relying on the microwave
sensing capabilities of POES. Although insensitive to clouds, microwave
measurements are affected by absorption and scattering due to CLW and contaminated
by heavy precipitation. At the time of publication, a computation for CLW
is being done over sea. If this value exceeds 2.5 mm, then heavy precipitation
is assumed and the derived sounding should not be considered for weather
applications. Over land, a separate precipitation index is computed. Correction
of microwave channels for CLW up to 2.5 mm is currently not done but under
investigation.
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- RAOB and NWP forecast profiles represent a series of point
measurements at specified horizontal and vertical locations. What are the
horizontal and vertical characteristics of satellite derived sounding products?
Answer: Satellite sounder measurements represent a collage of data at various
horizontal and vertical resolutions. The horizontal resolution of POES microwave
and infrared data decreases from 50 and 17 km at nadir
, to 150 and 50 km
respectively at the orbit swath edges. The sounding path is vertical at
nadir viewing, but becomes increasingly slanted toward the swath edges.
When deriving POES soundings, the microwave data are interpolated to the
infrared FOVs and limb adjusted to achieve a vertical path through the atmosphere
at all swath locations. The spatial characteristics of a satellite sounding
can best be described as a vertical cylinder whose horizontal resolution
varies as a function of swath location, and whose vertical extent is the
integration of the vertical sensitivities for all the sounding channels.
The average POES sounding cylinder measures about 50 km wide and extends
from the surface to 0.1 mb.
- How do cloud liquid water (CLW) and total precipitable water
(TPW) products generated by the NESDIS MSPPS
compare with the same products
available from ATOVS
and
AMSU
-B systems?
Answer: The algorithms for computing cloud liquid water (CLW) are similar
for the MSPPS, ATOVS, and AMSU-B systems. The algorithms for total precipitable
water (TPW), however, are quite different. TPW in the MSPPS system is based
strictly on the radiometric data, namely the surface channels of the AMSU-A
or AMSU-B, and is not provided over land. The TPW from the AMSU-A and AMSU-B
atmospheric sounding systems is based on the integration of derived moisture
profiles and is therefore available over sea and land. As a rule, TPW derived
from moisture profiles is slightly lower than TPW retrieved directly from
the sounder measurements.
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- POES sounder measurements from AMSU
-B used primarily for moisture
retrieval are contaminated by significant radio frequency interference (RFI)
from data transmitters onboard NOAA-15. What is the current status concerning
this RFI and are the AMSU-B measurements and derived products useful?
Answer: Problems concerning RFI and AMSU-B were observed shortly after
the launch of NOAA-15 in May 1998. The RFI degraded all of the AMSU-B measurements
and initially appeared to render these data useless. After a period of intensive
investigation and testing, however, NOAA, NASA, and United Kingdom Meteorological
Office scientists successfully developed RFI correction schemes for removing
a major portion of the RFI. Then, on 28 September 1999, the STX-1 and STX-3
data transmitters, the main sources of RFI, were permanently turned off.
The result was a significant reduction in RFI, and the determination was
made that RFI corrected AMSU-B measurements are suitable for operational
use. NESDIS plans operational use of AMSU-B measurements during the spring
of 2000, resulting in significant improvements to moisture retrieval.
- A known advantage of POES vs. GOES sounders is the ability
to retrieve atmospheric temperature and moisture in cloudy regions. In clear
regions where both systems provide soundings, how do the sensitivities of
POES and GOES sounders compare? Are they equivalent?
Answer: The POES ATOVS
deployed on NOAA-15 contains
a 20-channel AMSU
that provides continuous
vertical sounding of the atmosphere from the surface to 2 mb. The GOES infrared
sounder sounds from the surface to about 10 mb. AMSU also provides a much
improved sensitivity in the tropopause region between 300 and 100 mb where
the current GOES (and previous POES) sounders lack sensitivity. The GOES
sounder does, however, exhibit a higher horizontal resolution (8 km) than
the AMSU (48 km) and HIRS
(17 km).
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Product Availability and Operational Use - POSSE
and AWIPS
- NWS field offices currently have access to GOES
sounder retrievals and some derived product imagery through AWIPS. Will
the new generation of NOAA POES (NOAA-15, L, and M) provide the same
or a different suite of products?
Answer: POES products were originally designed to provide a suite
of global atmospheric sounding products. These consist primarily of
derived temperature and moisture soundings, radiometric sounder measurements,
and cloud products. However, the scope of the polar program has been
revised with more emphasis on providing products that resemble those
from GOES. POES products ported to AWIPS can be expected to include
retrieved soundings and product imagery similar to what's available
for GOES. The POSSE developed by NESDIS represents the first step
in this process.
- How soon can I expect to have access to sounding retrievals
(with POSSE) after a POES orbit?
Answer: It takes 104 minutes for one POES to complete an orbit. Orbital
processing at Suitland Maryland typically begins within 20 minutes
of an orbit's completion, and takes about 20 minutes to process. Users
can therefore expect to have POES data within 40 to 144 minutes of
the observation time.
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- When looking at POES sounding products (using POSSE),
are all displayed products valid for weather forecasting applications?
Answer: POES sounding products are computed from 1000 to 0.1 mb regardless
of the terrain height. Since soundings below the ground are not screened
in POSSE horizontal and vertical display modes, users must be careful
not to consider such data in weather analysis. Users are advised to
take precautions whenever using POES sounding products over high terrain.
The POES sounding data record also contains an observational quality
flag to help monitor product quality. For example, products contaminated
by precipitation are flagged as "poor quality." Only those products
exhibiting "good observational quality" should be considered for use
in operational weather forecasting.
- The larger operational forecast centers around the world have begun
switching from satellite derived soundings to satellite sounder measurements
for assimilation into NWP models. What impact if any does this have
when it comes to weather forecasting applications?
Answer: The increasing tendency for larger forecast centers to assimilate
sounder measurements reflects the notion that NWP forecast and observational
background errors are more easily computed when satellite radiation
measurements are assimilated rather than derived products (i.e., soundings).
The scientific algorithms and derived satellite soundings produced
by NESDIS are designed to satisfy the sounder radiometric measurements
similar to any NWP forecast or application. Both exhibit solutions
and performance (i.e., accuracy) constrained by the non-unique characteristics
of atmospheric radiative transfer theory, the limiting factor in deriving
an exact temperature and moisture solution given a vertical profile
of radiation measurements. A thorough treatment of this subject can
be found in Chapter 2 of the SATMET-3 CD-ROM module Using the GOES
Sounder.
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- What are the goals and attributes of the POSSE
system?
Answer: The POSSE system represents NESDIS's first attempt to provide
POES sounding products in a format compatible to what most NWS users
are familiar with for GOES. POSSE allows users to display horizontal
imagery of sounder data (channels) and derived product (levels) from
the latest NOAA-POES orbits. By selecting a particular location within
a horizontal field, the user can view the complete derived sounding
profiles (for temperature and moisture) and additional secondary derived
parameters (i.e., stability). Another feature of POSSE is the display
of NWP forecast data fields and profiles, when available. These typically
consist of a 6-hour forecast valid within 3 hours of the POES observation,
and the analysis from which the forecast was initialized. Occasionally
no forecast data is shown, indicating that timely forecast data was
not available at the time of the POES data capture.
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